https://folklore.org/The_Father_of_The_Macintosh.html : “There's no doubt that Jef was the creator of the Macintosh project at Apple, and that his articulate vision of an exceptionally easy to use, low cost, high volume appliance computer got the ball rolling, and remained near the heart of the project long after Jef left the company. He also deserves ample credit for putting together the extraordinary initial team that created the computer, recruiting former student Bill Atkinson to Apple and then hiring amazing individuals like Burrell Smith, Bud Tribble, Joanna Hoffman and Brian Howard for the Macintosh team. But there is also no escaping the fact that the Macintosh that we know and love is very different than the computer that Jef wanted to build, so much so that he is much more like an eccentric great uncle than the Macintosh's father. Jef did not want to incorporate what became the two most definitive aspects of Macintosh technology - the Motorola 68000 microprocessor and the mouse pointing device. Jef preferred the 6809, a cheaper but weaker processor which only had 16 bits of address space and would have been obsolete in just a year or two, since it couldn't address more than 64Kbytes. He was dead set against the mouse as well, preferring dedicated meta-keys to do the pointing. He became increasingly alienated from the team, eventually leaving entirely in the summer of 1981, when we were still just getting started, and the final product utilitized very few of the ideas in the Book of Macintosh. In fact, if the name of the project had changed after Steve took over in January 1981, and it almost did (see Bicycle), there wouldn't be much reason to correlate it with his ideas at all.”
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这篇 HN 讨论围绕 Jef Raskin 在 Macintosh 项目中的角色展开，但评论者指出他最初的愿景与最终产品差异巨大：他反对使用 68000 处理器和鼠标，偏好更弱的 6809 和纯键盘操作，最终因理念不合离开团队。这里的痛点并非用户直接体验，而是技术史爱好者或产品设计研究者试图理解“谁真正创造了 Mac”时，发现原始资料和主流叙事之间存在矛盾——Raskin 被冠以“Mac 之父”称号，但评论证据显示他的实际贡献被夸大，导致认知混乱。这种信息不一致会造成决策困难：例如在撰写历史文章或评估产品设计理念时，需要花费额外精力交叉验证不同来源（如 folklore.org 的详细反驳），否则容易得出片面结论。讨论中反复出现的“visionary but not behind the Mac”等表述，反映了对历史准确性的追求与现有简化叙事之间的摩擦，可能引发重复劳动和信任成本。
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Jef Raskin founded the Macintosh project at Apple, which led to the development of the Apple Mac and the popularisation of the graphical user-interface. He was Apple employee #31 and left the Macintosh team in mid-1981 after Steve Jobs took over the project. Jason Walsh: Before the Mac you were a professor of music. As […]
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Jef did go on to create a computer along the lines of his original vision after leaving Apple. > The Canon Cat used a text-based user interface, without any pointer, mouse, icons, or graphics. All data was seen as a long "stream" of text broken into several pages. Instead of using a traditional command-line interface or menu system, the Cat used its special keyboard, with commands activated by holding down a "Use Front" key and pressing another key. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Cat It was nothing like the Macintosh Apple shipped.
GeekyBear
The date in the title should be 2005, not 2013. At the end of the article it reads: > This article was first published on 2005.01.19. It’s also evidenced by the reference to the “new iMac G5.”
pavlov
Visionary, yes. Behind the Macintosh project, yes. Behind the Mac, as in, behind the Mac as it actually shipped, no. His ideas had little to do with it - it was almost entirely stuff designed by others when he was out of the project.
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